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 From : Serge Shikov                         2:5020/400     15 Jan 2002  11:08:32
 To : Vladislav Zlobin
 Subject : Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE
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 Vladislav Zlobin wrote:
 
 > 
 > >   1. Я могу наследовать от _любого_ типа, включая строковый.
 > >   Вопрос: я могу наследовать от строкового типа в Perl?
 > 
 >  SS> Hет. И в C++ не можешь. И в яве в общем-то не можешь, наследовать
 >  SS> от int например. И что?
 > 
 >     Вывод: в области ОО они уступают ST.
 
 Это почему? Я могу и другой вывод сделать - наследовать от int
 большинству нафиг не нужно. Эта ненужная фича была выкинута авторами
 явы/C++/паскаля за ненадобностью. Hу это условный пример, ты понимаешь?
 Что они уступают - это хорошо бы показать на примере, когда подобное
 наследование упрощает код, или делает его эффективнее.
 
 >  SS> Hу да, строки в перле - не объекты, заведи себе тип String -
 >  SS> и наследуй, ага?
 > 
 >     Агащазблин (c). :)
 > 
 >     Регулярные выражения сами по себе начнут понимать мой String? :)
 
 Hе факт. Hо думаю что научить можно.
  
 >  > Вопрос: я могу это сделать в Perl или мне придется сливать все в
 >  > одно слово (saveInto)?
 > 
 >  SS> Вообще-то можешь, но не совсем так.
 > 
 >     Именно что не совсем. :) Что можно получить практически эквивалентный
 > результат с точки зрения практического применения -- это понятно. :)
 
 А в чем эквивалентность-то? Будет также удобно - а что-то другое надо?
  
 >  >   4. Я могу создавать свои управляющие конструкции.
 >  >   Вопрос: могу я создать, к примеру, C-образный switch в Perl?
 > 
 >  SS> Hу try/catch же создают... Hе уверен что можно прям любые, но сам
 >  SS> понимаешь - при наличии eval и возможности передать функции
 >  SS> параметром блок кода можно почти все.
 > 
 >     Дело в том, что в ST условные операторы и всякие прочие циклы не являются
 > специальными языковыми конструкциями.
 
 Так ведь try/catch в перле - тоже. Конструкции - это { ... } и eval.
 
 > Это просто методы (класса Boolean). :)
 > Соответственно, создание собственных аналогов -- дело совершенно тривиальное в
 > рамках языка. В этом плане я могу навскидку назвать всего два аналога ST: Lisp
 > и Forth.
 
 И перл. Еще раз намекну - причина удобства не в методах boolean, а в
 возможности передать код для eval. Перл может.
 
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? is OK if CGI == EXE	Dmitry Guts	19 Dec 2001 01:58:00
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Mike Protsenko	19 Dec 2001 11:02:59
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrey N. Demushkin	19 Dec 2001 11:39:50
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Raoul & Natalia Nakhmanson-Kulish	19 Dec 2001 11:52:14
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrey N. Demushkin	19 Dec 2001 12:12:54
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Raoul & Natalia Nakhmanson-Kulish	19 Dec 2001 12:50:19
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrey N. Demushkin	20 Dec 2001 17:13:47
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sergey Tkachuk	21 Dec 2001 15:02:00
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	22 Dec 2001 04:13:24
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	19 Dec 2001 15:10:22
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Raoul & Natalia Nakhmanson-Kulish	19 Dec 2001 16:08:01
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	19 Dec 2001 16:59:34
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Averbuh	19 Dec 2001 23:44:00
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	20 Dec 2001 20:45:10
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Raoul & Natalia Nakhmanson-Kulish	21 Dec 2001 12:04:40
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	24 Dec 2001 18:30:10
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	25 Dec 2001 11:21:50
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vadim Saitov	26 Dec 2001 01:05:21
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	22 Dec 2001 04:08:32
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andy Bogdanov	19 Dec 2001 14:00:11
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	19 Dec 2001 14:35:06
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Raoul & Natalia Nakhmanson-Kulish	19 Dec 2001 15:35:16
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	19 Dec 2001 15:51:39
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Raoul & Natalia Nakhmanson-Kulish	19 Dec 2001 16:49:12
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	19 Dec 2001 18:14:16
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Dmitry Guts	19 Dec 2001 23:32:00
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andy Bogdanov	20 Dec 2001 10:29:07
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	20 Dec 2001 10:58:15
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andy Bogdanov	20 Dec 2001 18:20:10
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	20 Dec 2001 19:43:03
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andy Bogdanov	20 Dec 2001 19:59:46
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	20 Dec 2001 10:33:20
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Mikhail Fedotov	20 Dec 2001 14:28:37
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	22 Dec 2001 04:00:24
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vsevolod Lutovinov	23 Dec 2001 09:23:56
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	24 Dec 2001 18:35:31
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	25 Dec 2001 19:46:52
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	25 Dec 2001 20:13:30
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	26 Dec 2001 10:34:19
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	26 Dec 2001 12:45:09
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	26 Dec 2001 13:32:26
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	26 Dec 2001 15:10:53
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	27 Dec 2001 19:18:33
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	27 Dec 2001 23:13:07
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	08 Jan 2002 12:04:34
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Victor Metelitsa	08 Jan 2002 15:03:01
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	08 Jan 2002 16:53:49
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	08 Jan 2002 16:53:49
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	11 Jan 2002 17:34:20
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	12 Jan 2002 12:48:26
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	18 Jan 2002 19:07:00
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	18 Jan 2002 20:10:50
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vinokurov Andrey	23 Jan 2002 16:27:30
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	25 Jan 2002 12:10:07
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Kostiuchenko	28 Dec 2001 06:29:40
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	03 Jan 2002 13:02:11
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	04 Jan 2002 17:35:56
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	05 Jan 2002 15:46:23
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	05 Jan 2002 21:11:11
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	06 Jan 2002 11:58:52
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Victor Metelitsa	08 Jan 2002 14:30:20
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Victor Metelitsa	08 Jan 2002 14:30:19
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Kostiuchenko	05 Jan 2002 05:24:37
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	05 Jan 2002 13:15:03
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sergey Belov	05 Jan 2002 22:19:29
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Temerev	06 Jan 2002 23:13:43
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	14 Jan 2002 12:26:24
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Temerev	15 Jan 2002 16:47:47
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	14 Jan 2002 12:26:24
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sasha Chorny	17 Jan 2002 14:13:21
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	21 Jan 2002 03:23:31
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	06 Jan 2002 11:58:52
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	06 Jan 2002 16:29:08
? is OK if CGI == EXE	kan	08 Jan 2002 02:54:51
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	08 Jan 2002 12:39:16
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	14 Jan 2002 12:26:24
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	15 Jan 2002 11:08:32
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Victor Metelitsa	15 Jan 2002 18:56:02
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	15 Jan 2002 20:18:30
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	21 Jan 2002 03:23:31
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	24 Jan 2002 10:52:54
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alex Kharitonov	16 Jan 2002 00:14:24
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	21 Jan 2002 03:23:31
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alex Kharitonov	23 Jan 2002 20:03:04
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Kostiuchenko	16 Jan 2002 05:42:59
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	21 Jan 2002 03:23:31
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Temerev	06 Jan 2002 23:16:26
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	07 Jan 2002 00:28:00
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Temerev	07 Jan 2002 13:28:35
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	07 Jan 2002 17:28:33
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Temerev	07 Jan 2002 18:30:16
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	07 Jan 2002 19:30:56
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sasha Chorny	08 Jan 2002 12:30:22
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alex Kharitonov	06 Jan 2002 19:00:05
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	14 Jan 2002 12:26:24
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	Alexander Kostiuchenko	09 Jan 2002 03:17:25
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	Alexander Temerev	09 Jan 2002 20:18:26
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	Alexander Kostiuchenko	11 Jan 2002 04:43:12
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	Alexander Temerev	12 Jan 2002 21:58:11
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	pavel kurnosoff	14 Jan 2002 16:23:28
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	Alexander Kostiuchenko	19 Jan 2002 20:00:20
Perl OOP (Was: ? is OK if CGI == EXE)	Vladislav Zlobin	21 Jan 2002 03:23:31
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Kirill Paliy	27 Dec 2001 12:14:12
? is OK if CGI == EXE	kan	28 Dec 2001 00:04:59
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alex Kharitonov	27 Dec 2001 19:05:49
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Kostiuchenko	26 Dec 2001 17:39:04
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Alexander Temerev	06 Jan 2002 23:08:02
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Mykola A. Nickishov	16 Feb 2002 02:40:20
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sasha Chorny	31 Dec 2001 01:07:14
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vladislav Zlobin	27 Dec 2001 18:58:03
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	27 Dec 2001 08:53:03
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	22 Dec 2001 04:06:24
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sergey Tkachuk	21 Dec 2001 15:07:00
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	21 Dec 2001 10:50:37
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Sergey Tkachuk	21 Dec 2001 19:30:00
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	21 Dec 2001 23:35:45
? is OK if CGI == EXE	pavel kurnosoff	22 Dec 2001 04:15:47
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	23 Dec 2001 12:08:59
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vsevolod Lutovinov	23 Dec 2001 09:32:53
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	23 Dec 2001 12:13:03
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	23 Dec 2001 17:35:03
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	23 Dec 2001 19:37:03
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	24 Dec 2001 02:23:29
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vsevolod Lutovinov	25 Dec 2001 02:47:11
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	25 Dec 2001 11:32:03
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vsevolod Lutovinov	25 Dec 2001 16:57:11
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	25 Dec 2001 18:06:27
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Vsevolod Lutovinov	28 Dec 2001 05:36:42
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	28 Dec 2001 12:17:57
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	25 Dec 2001 12:04:53
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	27 Dec 2001 03:07:57
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	27 Dec 2001 11:39:43
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	27 Dec 2001 19:10:21
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	28 Dec 2001 02:02:42
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	28 Dec 2001 20:55:53
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	29 Dec 2001 13:08:29
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	29 Dec 2001 23:39:35
Re: ? is OK if CGI == EXE	Serge Shikov	31 Dec 2001 11:42:49
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Andrew Aksyonoff	01 Jan 2002 22:40:10
? is OK if CGI == EXE	abrasha shapirus	24 Dec 2001 17:59:04
? is OK if CGI == EXE	Anton Zheltov	19 Dec 2001 16:15:43

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