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ru.linux- RU.LINUX --------------------------------------------------------------------- From : Victor Wagner 2:5020/400 15 Feb 2007 17:56:05 To : Andrey Mihailov Subject : Re: ëèíóõ â øêîëå -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrey Mihailov <Andrey.Mihailov@p1.f335.n469.z2.fidonet.org> wrote: AM> Hi Victor! AM> 13 ôåâðàëÿ 2007 19:18, Victor Wagner ïèñàë Roman Belenov: VW>> Åæåëè èñõèòðèòüñÿ íàó÷èòü äåòåé ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÈÐÎÂÀHÈÞ, à íå VW>> "ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèþ íà C/C++/àññåìáëåðå", ÷òî ïðèíöèïèàëüíî VW>> ìîæíî ñäåëàòü è èñïîëüçóÿ â êà÷åñòâå èíñòðóìåíòà VW>> C/C++/àññåìáëåð AM> IMHO, äëÿ ýòîãî àññåìáëåð íåïîäõîæèò âîîáùå - AM> àëãîðèòìè÷åñêèå ßÂÓ íå çðÿ ïðèäóìàëè, ëîãèêà CPU ñèëüíî À âîò Äîíàëüä Êíóò ñ òîáîé â ýòîì âîïðîñå íå ñîãëàñåí. È íàïèñàë ñâî¸ "Èñêóññòâî ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèÿ" ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì àññåìáëåðà âûìûøëåííîé ìàøèíû MiX äëÿ ïðèìåðîâ. Ïðàâäà, ÷òîáû íàó÷èòü ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèþ íà ïðèìåðå àññåìáëåðà, íàäî áûòü åñëè íå Êíóòîì, òî óæ òî÷íî íå ôèçêóëüòóðíèêîì, ïîäìÿâøèì äîïîëíèòåëüíûå ÷àñû èíôîðìàòèêè. AM> Èìåííî ïîýòîìó äëÿ íà÷àëüíîãî îáó÷åíèÿ ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèþ AM> ñîçäàíû ñïåöèàëüíûå ÿçûêè - Áåéñèê è Ïàñêàëü, - ÷¸òêî AM> ôîðìàëèçîâàííûå, ñ óïðîù¸ííûìè îïåðàòîðàìè è ñîâåðøåííî Hó ÿ áû íå íàçâàë Áåéñèê ÷åòêî ôîðìàëèçîâàííûì. Îïÿòü æå Áåéñèê - ýòî ñåðåäèíà 60-õ, Ïàñêàëü - ñåðåäèíà 70-õ, à íûíå óæ XXI âåê íà äâîðå. Ìîæíî âçÿòü ê ïðèìåðó Python èëè Ruby. Îíè îòëè÷àþòñÿ îò Pascal òåì, ÷òî ìîæíî ó÷èòüñÿ ïðîãðàììèðîâàòü íå íà ïðèìåðå îòîðâàííûõ îò æèçíè çàäà÷åê âèäà "ïîñ÷èòàòü ñóììó âñåõ íå÷åòíûõ ÷èñåë ìåíüøå N", à íà ÷åì-íèáóäü áîëåå ïðèáëèæåííîì ê äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè, íàïðèìåð "Áåðåì òåêñòîâûé ôàéë ñ lib.ru è ìåíÿåì âñå êàâû÷êè êîòîðûå ASCII 34 íà ïðèëè÷íûå òèïîãðàôñêèå êàâû÷êè-åëî÷êè". Äà, ñ ó÷åòîì ïðàâèë âëîæåííîñòè. -- Óâàæàéòå ðåëèãèîçíûå ÷óâñòâà àòåèñòîâ. --- ifmail v.2.15dev5.3 * Origin: Free Net of Leninsky,45 (2:5020/400) Âåðíóòüñÿ ê ñïèñêó òåì, ñîðòèðîâàííûõ ïî: âîçðàñòàíèå äàòû óìåíüøåíèå äàòû òåìà àâòîð
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