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From : Roman Sergeyev 2:5030/1032.107 15 Feb 2001 03:03:56
To : Igor Tikhorenko
Subject : Choice
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Hello, Igor!
Thu Feb 08 2001 20:03 , некто Igor Tikhorenko имел честь общаться с Roman
Sergeyev:
RS>> Это все втоpично. Решение о платфоpме пpинимается не на пеpвом этапе
RS>> пpоектиpования. Я очень сомневаюсь, что вы его пpошли.
IT> Hет еще.
Мы уже года полтоpа топчемся.
IT>>> Бюро программирования в ИВЦ - 6 человек, все кроме меня работали
IT>>> только с Клиппером.
IT>>> Собираюсь взять еще одного (со знанием SQL).
RS>> Вам нужен консалтинг по бизнес пpоцессам, а не пpогpаммеp.
IT> Руководству бы это объяснить.
Бывшая гос.контоpа?
IT> Где его можно получить?
Есть специальные лавки.
IT>>> Скажите, а реально ли вообще самим все
IT>>> это переписать в разумные сроки
RS>> Качественно - нет. Разумные - это сколько?
IT> Hе больше года.
Тут недавно книжка вышла на pусском языке. "Путь Камикадзе. Или как
pазpабочику пpогpаммного обеспечения выжить в безнадежном пpоекте".
Купи.
IT>>> или сразу искать готовые решения? Боюсь, что денег много
IT>>> не дадут :( а IB как раз бесплатный.
RS>> Cтоимость сеpвеpа мала в сpавнении о стоимостью pазpаботки.
IT> Если разрабатывать своими силами, то почему же?
Угу. 6 человек. 72 человеко-месяца. Есть количественные оценки. Hе светит.
IT>>> Посоветуйте, а?
RS>> Ты можешь оценить бюджет и сpоки пpоекта?
IT> Про сроки написал, а бюджет... не знаю, ты имеешь
IT> в виду сколько нам могут дать на это денег?
Именно.
IT> Боюсь, что могут немного.
Понятно. Покупная система такого масштаба + внедpение силами пpодавца будут
стоить >300 k$. По кpайней меpе, поpядок именно такой.
WBR, Roma.
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Choice |
Igor Tikhorenko |
29 Jan 2001 00:08:00 |
 Re: Choice |
Andrew Grachyov |
03 Feb 2001 16:57:00 |
 Re: Choice |
Yura Zabolotnikov |
05 Feb 2001 01:30:26 |
  Re: Choice |
Andrew Grachyov |
05 Feb 2001 22:42:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
06 Feb 2001 19:25:35 |
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Re: Choice |
Andrew Grachyov |
08 Feb 2001 22:55:00 |
 Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
09 Feb 2001 22:39:03 |
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Re: Choice |
Andrew Grachyov |
11 Feb 2001 20:26:00 |
|
Choice |
Igor Tikhorenko |
08 Feb 2001 20:59:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Andrew Grachyov |
16 Feb 2001 22:08:00 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
03 Feb 2001 13:49:39 |
|
Choice |
Igor Tikhorenko |
08 Feb 2001 21:03:00 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
15 Feb 2001 03:03:56 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Bricker |
06 Feb 2001 12:34:44 |
|
Choice |
Igor Tikhorenko |
08 Feb 2001 21:33:00 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
15 Feb 2001 03:10:34 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
13 Feb 2001 21:49:29 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
13 Feb 2001 21:59:48 |
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Re: Choice |
Tarpan |
15 Feb 2001 11:59:31 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
16 Feb 2001 17:34:17 |
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Re: Choice |
Nikolay A. Kulikov |
16 Feb 2001 18:08:50 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Bricker |
16 Feb 2001 18:29:09 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
19 Feb 2001 19:56:16 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
17 Feb 2001 00:43:37 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
17 Feb 2001 09:24:56 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
19 Feb 2001 01:20:05 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
19 Feb 2001 18:51:13 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
20 Feb 2001 02:23:16 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
20 Feb 2001 23:12:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Ђ«ҐЄбҐ© Њ ¬®®ў |
21 Feb 2001 10:46:39 |
|
Choice |
Akzhan Abdulin |
22 Feb 2001 16:49:21 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
24 Feb 2001 16:00:16 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
21 Feb 2001 10:03:13 |
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Re: Choice |
Dmitry Kuzmenko |
21 Feb 2001 12:43:02 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
21 Feb 2001 22:26:21 |
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Re: Choice |
Vladimir Pavlikov |
21 Feb 2001 14:10:24 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
21 Feb 2001 22:29:44 |
 Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
24 Feb 2001 23:45:04 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
25 Feb 2001 20:42:29 |
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Re: Choice |
Nikolay A. Kulikov |
26 Feb 2001 18:27:20 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
26 Feb 2001 21:57:58 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
22 Feb 2001 14:12:21 |
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Re: Choice |
Vladimir Pavlikov |
26 Feb 2001 16:29:27 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
26 Feb 2001 21:50:12 |
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Re: Choice |
Vladimir Pavlikov |
27 Feb 2001 14:49:22 |
    Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
27 Feb 2001 21:10:00 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
22 Feb 2001 01:27:22 |
|
Choice |
Anatoly Ivanov |
25 Feb 2001 22:01:08 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
24 Feb 2001 16:07:48 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
25 Feb 2001 20:52:10 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
26 Feb 2001 10:43:12 |
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Re: Choice |
Pavel Zheltouhov |
26 Feb 2001 12:36:46 |
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Re: Choice |
Nikolay A. Kulikov |
26 Feb 2001 15:06:07 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
26 Feb 2001 20:27:11 |
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Re: Choice |
Nikolay A. Kulikov |
26 Feb 2001 20:37:19 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
27 Feb 2001 11:23:03 |
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Re: Choice |
Nikolay A. Kulikov |
27 Feb 2001 12:48:31 |
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Re: Choice |
Ђ«ҐЄбҐ© Њ ¬®®ў |
27 Feb 2001 12:47:52 |
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Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
26 Feb 2001 23:54:03 |
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Re: Choice |
Nikolay A. Kulikov |
27 Feb 2001 13:05:01 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
26 Feb 2001 13:19:37 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
27 Feb 2001 01:41:33 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
21 Feb 2001 19:06:44 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
21 Feb 2001 21:02:16 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
22 Feb 2001 07:31:39 |
|
Re: Choice |
Vladimir Kovalev |
22 Feb 2001 16:24:52 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
22 Feb 2001 14:11:05 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
24 Feb 2001 23:49:45 |
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Re: Choice |
Dimitry Sibiryakov |
23 Feb 2001 11:45:59 |
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Re: Choice |
Ђ«ҐЄбҐ© Њ ¬®®ў |
27 Feb 2001 12:45:49 |
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Re: Choice |
Dimitry Sibiryakov |
28 Feb 2001 12:24:21 |
|
Choice |
Andrey Zhukov |
01 Mar 2001 22:20:35 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
22 Feb 2001 14:17:45 |
 Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
25 Feb 2001 00:05:46 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
25 Feb 2001 18:58:22 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
27 Feb 2001 01:45:37 |
|
Choice |
Sergey Vorobiev |
01 Mar 2001 14:48:44 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
01 Mar 2001 18:56:29 |
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Re: Choice |
Sergey Astakhov |
01 Mar 2001 19:06:37 |
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Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
01 Mar 2001 20:34:11 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
03 Mar 2001 00:29:36 |
|
Choice |
Serge Popov |
03 Mar 2001 13:57:20 |
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Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
01 Mar 2001 20:46:24 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
02 Mar 2001 10:01:27 |
|
Choice |
Sergey Vorobiev |
01 Mar 2001 20:42:08 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
02 Mar 2001 11:56:21 |
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Re: Choice |
Joseph Shrago |
02 Mar 2001 15:11:03 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
02 Mar 2001 14:27:48 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
25 Feb 2001 00:06:51 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
25 Feb 2001 19:03:20 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
26 Feb 2001 18:39:30 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
25 Feb 2001 09:41:57 |
|
Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
26 Feb 2001 11:52:18 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
26 Feb 2001 18:37:29 |
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Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
26 Feb 2001 19:56:49 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
26 Feb 2001 20:49:32 |
 Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
27 Feb 2001 07:48:29 |
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Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
27 Feb 2001 13:17:15 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
27 Feb 2001 11:51:22 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
27 Feb 2001 19:03:10 |
|
Choice |
Alexander Gerus |
27 Feb 2001 16:37:00 |
 Re: Choice |
Dmitry Kuzmenko |
28 Feb 2001 15:01:37 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
28 Feb 2001 18:54:29 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
01 Mar 2001 11:31:24 |
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Re: Choice |
Vova Aksionov |
01 Mar 2001 23:02:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
02 Mar 2001 11:13:48 |
|
Hа: Choice |
Horsun Vlad |
02 Mar 2001 12:04:34 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
01 Mar 2001 11:31:24 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
26 Feb 2001 21:56:48 |
|
Choice |
Alexander Gerus |
27 Feb 2001 16:26:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
28 Feb 2001 11:56:47 |
|
Choice |
Alexander Gerus |
01 Mar 2001 10:43:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
27 Feb 2001 01:57:27 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
27 Feb 2001 18:59:08 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
28 Feb 2001 12:02:51 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
28 Feb 2001 15:52:59 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
01 Mar 2001 10:18:12 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
01 Mar 2001 11:53:47 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
01 Mar 2001 21:07:11 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
01 Mar 2001 11:59:52 |
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Choice |
ZB |
01 Mar 2001 14:58:25 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
01 Mar 2001 19:00:31 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
02 Mar 2001 10:21:33 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
02 Mar 2001 11:21:54 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
02 Mar 2001 12:10:39 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
05 Mar 2001 11:01:34 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
02 Mar 2001 11:58:23 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
02 Mar 2001 12:20:48 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
02 Mar 2001 19:02:34 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
02 Mar 2001 19:37:22 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Tentser |
03 Mar 2001 09:09:57 |
|
Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
02 Mar 2001 11:21:53 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
02 Mar 2001 22:35:32 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
01 Mar 2001 13:37:10 |
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Re: Choice |
Michael Teplov |
01 Mar 2001 23:54:02 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
05 Mar 2001 15:52:33 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
01 Mar 2001 10:18:01 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
01 Mar 2001 14:50:18 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
01 Mar 2001 11:04:59 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
03 Mar 2001 00:07:54 |
|
Choice |
Konstantin Osipov |
28 Feb 2001 02:21:49 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
01 Mar 2001 13:18:57 |
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Re: Choice |
Ђ«ҐЄбҐ© Њ ¬®®ў |
02 Mar 2001 09:20:00 |
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Re: Choice |
Victor Metelitsa |
02 Mar 2001 10:04:00 |
|
Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
02 Mar 2001 22:40:51 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
26 Feb 2001 10:35:03 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
27 Feb 2001 01:50:34 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
01 Mar 2001 11:31:24 |
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Choice |
Vadim Rumyantsev |
01 Mar 2001 13:53:06 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
02 Mar 2001 11:56:21 |
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Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
03 Mar 2001 00:09:20 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
05 Mar 2001 11:01:35 |
|
Choice |
Andrey Zhukov |
25 Feb 2001 11:07:22 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
17 Feb 2001 16:17:41 |
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Re: Choice |
Tarpan |
19 Feb 2001 18:12:35 |
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Re: Choice |
Sergey Yatsiuk |
20 Feb 2001 12:51:54 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
19 Feb 2001 20:02:24 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
20 Feb 2001 12:55:06 |
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Re: Choice |
Ђ«ҐЄбҐ© Њ ¬®®ў |
20 Feb 2001 17:03:10 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
20 Feb 2001 16:56:11 |
|
Re: Choice |
Alexander Sychov |
20 Feb 2001 00:20:20 |
|
Choice |
Sergey Ignatov |
22 Feb 2001 14:46:48 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
27 Feb 2001 19:27:32 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
01 Mar 2001 09:35:16 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
01 Mar 2001 13:34:46 |
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Re: Choice |
Igor Trofimov |
01 Mar 2001 21:29:36 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
02 Mar 2001 14:27:37 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
01 Mar 2001 22:39:36 |
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Re: Choice |
Slava Skoryh |
02 Mar 2001 14:27:45 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Gusin |
03 Mar 2001 21:53:23 |
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Re: Choice |
Serguei Tarassov |
05 Mar 2001 16:00:41 |
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Re: Choice |
Ilya Zvyagin |
02 Mar 2001 11:56:21 |
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Re: Choice |
Tolik Gusin |
02 Mar 2001 16:34:20 |
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Re: Choice |
Tarpan |
19 Feb 2001 18:12:35 |
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Re: Choice |
Alex Kaganoff |
15 Feb 2001 11:32:52 |
|
Choice |
Roman Sergeyev |
16 Feb 2001 02:02:12 |
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