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ru.perl- RU.PERL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From : Oleg A. Paraschenko 2:5020/400 08 Feb 2002 03:14:19 To : All Subject : 7-bit humans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Привет! Мне даже понравилось: -------- Original Message -------- In a message dated 2/6/02 7:21:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, Grant.McLean@davy.ie writes: > > Ideally you should be able to read or write in arbitrary encodings > but the in-memory representation that you 'process' should always > be UTF8. This is because Perl understands UTF8. It does not and > will not understand other encodings. Pretending that it's safe > to work with non-ASCII & non-UTF8 data in Perl is not a good idea. > > My response; NOR should it EVER (time is precious; will your proj. schedule likely be moved "up"?) and this is cool bc.: a. The EU (European Union) mandates by acceptance as a member; all EU governmental language based material be produced in TWO languages; the national language of the member country AND ENGLISH. Yep, that's true. (I was there to "watch". Landed in London the day the danes voted the Maastricht Treaty down and bought several copies of the Times bearing a LARGE PRINT headline "MASTRICHT IS DEAD". Meaning the EU would never happen. Toured several candidate countries w/U.S. acedemics whilst the EU guys in ea. country tried to send us home to report EU is a lock. Things were told, revealed, insured in their moment of top level self consciencousness. Waaay! EU never happen? It did. Tho. Sooo, their home gov. is cool w/english for sure, a lot, now, from now on, forever, waaay, the most base level of highest government fiat.) b. All the Eastern European applicants will follow "suits". c. India: the civil service/gov nationally, regionally, suburbly even, have done ALL biz. in English since the Brits fiated those things for them. d. Canada too. Us/US too. e. The former Soviet Union imposed college level fluency in English on all college students from arrival (and forced just about every decent intellect to go to and graduate from college (and in English, "talk good"). How many former U.S.S.R. countries are there? f. Wherever there is a McDonalds or other U.S. "born" merchant influence (or U.K. Commenwealth/former colony; like us/US), you cannot get a job at the counter/customer there if you don't "talk good", in ENGLISH. (In the EU tour, we did a parallel case study of McDonalds (in ea. city of ea. country we stopped in, re: their Corp. and distributor and franchisee level particular experiences of adaptations made to succeed in internationalization, at the "there" "their turf", local (way) level". I noticed I knew only English and was getting along great and brought that up in the discs. BTW, I did prepare for Germany and learned a single phrase I picked as the most likely to solve whatever problems I might land in "Ich bin auslander und sprechen nein Deusch"; that's right, "speaking" that phonetically, glibly and somewhat quickly (speaking slow is a self-setup; "everyone will absolutely notice; fast), I could ignore that it didn't parse in German.) g. No biz., of any sort that might ever care about the impact of software impact "we" work in will accept any of it NOT in English. (Why is kinda cool/revealing/nationalistic-pride-making-generating (still sic)) Therefore, other char. sets etc.; leave that out of the core processing and in only the filtering, IM!HO). If parts of speech need to be reordered for quality translations, code it, in Perarl etc., in english UTF8? Regards, Jim Cunningham P.S. (Bail. You've been warned) Premise support (maybe) submissions: Re: my submission above; likely applicability/relavence/affirmability; I ended up Certified International Trade Advisor via the U.S. Dept. of Educ. grant program to produce International Trade Advisor Certification. I like to assume my friend, the course developer and principal instructor John Cale signed mine first due to my role in "hooking them up" w/The Honorable John Dingell, U.S. Congress, House of Representatves via the Southern Wayne County Chamber of Commerce, of Metropolitan Detroit's Southern suburbs, then President Omer O'Neil and his exec. (now Pres.) Ed Clemente (who is also a CITA, Certified International Trade Advisor-he missed EU tour; Omer needed him at work and he's a BOD member/educator at our communities (not possesive case, 21 of them in SWCCC) newest showcase Community College, AND he plays rugby all over the planet, and my then working w/John Cale on specifics of course content, "presentation", and "in vitro" blurt_out/interrupt/mash_the_crux_of_the_bisquit_into_to_them/complete_the_mis sion_SUCESSFULLY "live" contributions. "running on", Eagles P.P.S. (warning two too to you) Re: my submission(s) above; likely applicability/relavence/affirmability; My buddy John Cale served as a Marine Lieutenant (spook div.) courier in the Korean police action conflict and was the only survivor of an airborne hand_cuffed briefcase delivery mission. When his legs were fixed as much as then possible and he was again mobile, he was awarded "choice of duty" until the mandatory fitness requirements to remain a Marine mandated (fullest review processing time consmption couldn't continue) his discharge. Taking advantage of the G.I. Bill to get a Masters, he ended up Chrysler's #2 guy for Europe dealer op. (# 2 is responsible for the opertions, as #1 is responsible as point person for the (never ending bc. there can never be enough of the opportunities from genuine waaay top level) social event socialization (marketing, the top level, face to face evaluations of likely reliability, capability, mash_it_thru_when_somebody_interferes ability, which is naturally of overiding importance. Sooo, John searched, identified, chose dealer entity candidates, submitted his evaluations (family bank connections, family experience, family power in relavent layers of gov., etc. the things that matter; this is in Europe, post war recovery, remember, a very mature culture re: what works, really), made it happen for chosen candidates, got it's cash flow Corp. stipend in the hands of his bank guy. When a dealer org. got in trouble, he was expected to go fix'em, so he did, regularly, it's biz., etc. Then when Congress saved the U.S. workers, investors etc., John;s mission was to dismantle all he had built and maintained, cancel the lease on his London office turn the light off and fly home to be downsized and apply for unemployment (remember, this guys a hero by nature and experience). Then he got a job as an acedemic, created and maintained the School for International Business for Madonna College, bumped into me at a local Intnl. biz cocktail reception for some recent arrival (China guys, their first PRE-U.S./Detroit let's start an auto biz. too visit). We hit it off good bc. of our perspective of how biz. really has to operate, the everyone/everything_else balance gambit to keep it effective and thus in existence). I accompanied him along his goal of being a player in how this would_go/went down, some details going the way our entities/community needed it to (bury it in a line-item, in the details, negotiate, get political/balance_compromised; just get what you need gettable), like them (the Chinese, their hard core socialists, remember, they're tuff negotiator/influencers like you may never have imagined, like the car biz; Co./Union interplay upshot). Completeing getting the Chinese pro-Detroit/car-biz faction successful (from the local point of view), and the resultant China biz activity birthed and big, we began musing about this United States of Europe (EU) thing we had heard so much about, from the channels we had in common, and decided the matter seemed worhty of further investigation, as it seemed likely to be worthy of further impact on International Trade (from a local perspective, and don't forget John's Chrysler experience), as he pointed out, Europe is likely doing all that for the benefit of their bizs (we/USbiz were making substantial inroads despite their post war nations rebuilding necessary and vital European Commission trade treaties (pro their country tariffs on European goods and especially on everbody (sic) else and especially it sure seemed on us/US, IOHO, in our helpful opinion { : > )-[---.--XX (the pointyhead pencil-necked geek off-center naveled crossed leg (thighs and then feet 2) smily?)). Sooo, thus, eventually, the above main message body assertions re: EU/English/Perl/GLOBAL/biz/utility/optimization/effectiveness incentive. Pardon my spew, thought some of u might "need to know", soon. Pleas, keep Perl (itself) stuff English only. There's so much yet to be done in so many other things, like Perl utilization contributions to global well being in the nearer term. There's a LOT of starving kids out there; many more due to show, soon. Let's pick up the pace. They need a JOB, not a fish. And don't teach them to fish so u can sign them to self indenturing (support/maintenance) contracts for the damn "hook" (they can probably get a line on the rest of the gear, like sticks and long thiner stuff that flexes good, tho they'll likely be long starved dead by the time they conceptualize lures, like analysis of any presentation of hook contract marketeers they might hear but yet not hear). Hunger hurtfully hinders hearing; waaaaaaay. Wiper out the 4H club? No! 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