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 From: Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart@ed.ac.uk>
 To: letters@lwn.net
 Subject: "Who really is the leading distributor?"
 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:59:54 +0100
 
 This article should really have been called "Who really is the
 leading retail distributon?".
 
 The article is all about retail, not distribution.  For example,
 Debian would not appear in your list, even if it existed on 75% of
 the installed systems in th US - why, because there is no retail
 distribution channel to give you statistics. (I doubt that the Debian
 Team could tell you how many system there may be, +/- 20%!).
 
 As an article, it was interesting, but the headline was definately
 missleading..
 
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 Ian Stuart - EdINA, DataLibrary, University computing services.
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 Truth is what you believe it to be.
   I cannot force my facts on you, only make you believe my beliefs.
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 From: (anonymous)
 To: "'lwn@lwn.net'" <lwn@lwn.net>
 Subject: SuSE and market share
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:19:03 -0800
 I  think its important for everything to be in perspective- The PC Data
 numbers that SuSE use to claim its "48%" market share are only for ONE WEEK-
 PC Data releases weekly numbers to its subscribers and has YET to release
 the numbers for February in total....obviously that one week was when SuSE
 7.1 was released and the other distros were silent. Retail sales over all
 for Linux distros are flat or declining - with Caldera pulling out all
 together, Corel soon to be done and Turbo can't be far behind. Basically-
 from a retail perspective, the distros are just trading customers and not
 seeing true market growth...I encourage you folks to get the PC Data numbers
 and look for yourselves- do not just rely on respective press releases...as
 they say...Torture the data until it confesses.
 
 Its best I be anonymous....
 
    
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:44:59 +0100
 From: Duncan Cragg <duncan.cragg@2020me.com>
 To: letters@lwn.net
 Subject: Embedded Linux and Freedom
 So RMS says:
 
 > I'm less concerned with what happens with embedded systems than I am with
 > real computers. The real reason for this is the moral issues about
 > software freedom are much more significant for computers that users see
 > as a computer.  And so I'm not really concerned with what's running
 > inside my microwave oven.
 
 And I say the opposite:
 
         [17]http://cilux.net
 
 The reason we differ is simple: I predict an imminent new 'generation' of
 'programmable machines' (not 'computers') which are fundamentally
 embedded. I believe that we have lost a battle to Microsoft in the current
 generation (Unix tried, but failed).  But we have a second chance this time
 around! And in the new generation, issues of privacy and freedom come into
 very sharp focus.
 
 RMS has, in a way, hit the nail on the head: you see present-day
 computers. In the future you may not.  In the future, you will see your
 'virtual stuff' before you see anything that looks like a computer. And
 that virtual stuff can be instantly manifest anywhere in the world many
 times over. Spot the privacy issues!  But more importantly, spot the
 freedom issues: 'Intellectual Property' simply becomes moot when seen in
 the light of this highly volatile and mobile virtual stuff. There can be no
 such thing, since it only exists by government decree and the technology
 has outgrown such boundaries!
 
 Now, in the new generation of programmable machines, you see virtual stuff
 before you see any program. The stuff 'implies' and draws in to you the
 programs that are needed to animate it. So (a) you can't have to license
 your programs just to be able to do things with your own or your colleagues
 stuff; (b) you all have to agree to use the same programs to ensure
 compatibility with other virtual stuff, and (c) you have to be able to
 trust (i.e., see and improve) those programs when they control virtual
 stuff that could even be running your home - or running nanobots around
 your home!  So the Intellectual Property absurdity over virtual stuff
 applies fully to the programs used to animate it. Thankfully!
 
 Duncan Cragg
    
 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:46:05 +0100 (CET)
 From: ?Erik_Inge_Bolso/ <erik@tms.no>
 To: lwn@lwn.net
 Subject: ALSA & Suse
 
 Greetings.
 
 One thing that could be noted about your recent editorial about ALSA, is
 that it is not exactly surprising that ALSA is included in the Suse
 distribution - since all three of Jaroslav Kysela, Abramo Bagnaro and
 Takashi Iwai, the three core developers of ALSA, are employed full-time
 by Suse. :)
 
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 Tlf: 712 41 699         Mobil: 915 79 512
    
 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:13:54 -0500
 To: letters@lwn.net
 Subject: Re: Ol' Uncle Harlan
 From: Zygo Blaxell <zblaxell@washu.furryterror.org>
 
 >The *ability* copy does not confer the *right* to copy
 
 Sorry, but I _do_ believe that the ownership and possession of an object
 _does_ confer the right to do nearly anything to that object, including
 but not limited to destroying it, modifying it, analyzing it, and making
 (or attempting to make) copies of all or part it, provided that my doing
 so does not necessarily constitute an infringement of the rights of
 someone else.  I further believe that these rights deserve the highest
 levels of legal protection.
 
 I believe that activities such as using copyright works to cause direct
 harm to people, whether by evading an established legal framework
 for other people to derive compensation from their creative work, or
 by breaking up CD media containing copyright works into sharp plastic
 shards and building some kind of weapon out of them with demonstrable
 intent to use the weapon on somebody, do not deserve legal protection.
 
 Distributing copies of copyright works without permission should be
 illegal.  Merely making the copies in the first place should be a
 protected activity as long as privacy is maintained.
 
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 or whether it should continue to exist in its present form or whether
 or not a government or governmental agency, either foreign or domestic,
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