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 From : Sergey Lentsov                       2:4615/71.10   16 Aug 2001  16:52:37
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    Linux distributors are branching out in their attempts to find ways to
    make money with free software. Here's a couple of interesting
    announcements from the last week:
      * As expected, Red Hat [38]announced the availability of the "Red
        Hat E-Commerce Suite." This offering is a bundling of Red Hat
        Linux 7.1, PostgreSQL (oops, that's "Red Hat Database"), Apache,
        Interchange (once known as "MiniVend"), and "CommerceLauncher," a
        web-based configuration tool.
        The components of the E-Commerce Suite are all open-source tools,
        so one could build the equivalent of this suite without having to
        pay for it. (In practice, though, CommerceLauncher is currently
        only available if you buy the E-Commerce Suite; presumably it will
        escape into the wild eventually). Red Hat is hoping that it will
        be able to convince people to pay the subscription fee
        ($275/month) to get a combination of an integrated platform and
        associated update and support services. There will also be, of
        course, additional consulting services for an appropriate fee.
      * Turbolinux has [39]announced the delivery of a "tailor-made Linux
        package" to The Credit Index, which does credit risk modeling for
        catalog marketers. It's an S/390 distribution which fits the
        mainframe world to the degree that it can be installed from a 3490
        tape drive. Amusingly, Turbolinux touts its 2.4.5 kernel, which it
        claims is "the latest version." More seriously, though, Turbolinux
        has put together a specialized install of its distribution to meet
        the (intense) needs of a specific company.
        
    The common thread here shows where the money may really be in the
    Linux distribution business: providing integrated solutions that "just
    work." Linux enthusiasts are happy to pull together software from
    several sources and make the combination work well. People who are
    experimenting with deploying Linux in their companies often prefer not
    to have to do that; if they can get a single CD set (or 3490 tape)
    with everything they need their lives are easier, and they feel more
    confident in proceeding.
    
    So it would not be all that surprising to see the number of
    distributions actually increase in the future, even if the number of
    distributors drops. And the real winners may be the company that can
    crank out special-purpose, customized distributions in a way similar
    to how Dell cranks out computers. Customers who get exactly what they
    need tend to come back for more.
    
    On the costs of full disclosure. A message on the Bugtraq list asked
    [40]can we afford full disclosure of security holes?. The motivation
    for the posting was, of course, the Code Red worm, which, according to
    some of the more breathless accounts, has cost billions of dollars
    worldwide. Implicit in the posting is a claim that Code Red would not
    have happened in the absence of [41]the advisory and exploit posted by
    eEye.
    
    eEye, of course, [42]denies (convincingly) that its advisory enabled
    the Code Red worm in any way. But what if it had? Is full disclosure
    of security vulnerabilities an irresponsible act?
    
    In the proprietary software world, it is tempting to say that only
    vendors should be given details of vulnerabilities. They can then fix
    the problem and get patches in the hands of their customers without
    making exploit information available to the bad guys. This view misses
    some important points, however. One is that malware authors will
    figure out the problems anyway; a clever cracker with debugging tools
    will be able to determine just what problems a binary vendor patch
    fixes. Even if the license agreement says they can't do that. Vendors
    also tend to be slow about fixing problems until there is a real need.
    Independent vendors of security products and services have a
    legitimate interest in the details of security problems.
    
    But the real point is that those who use buggy software - and that is
    all of us - have a right to know about the problems in the programs we
    run on our systems and depend on. Proprietary software vendors, of
    course, like to withhold such information; that has a lot to do with
    why many of us use free software instead.
    
    In the free software community, there really are no alternatives to
    full disclosure. Once the source for a patch has been released, all
    the details are easily available anyway. And the free software
    community only benefits from its preference for not hiding problems in
    general.
    
    So free software users need not be involved in this debate. But the
    truth of the matter is that the situation is not all that different
    for proprietary software. The information will get out - crackers have
    a sort of full disclosure policy of their own. Anything other than
    full disclosure on the "white hat" side serves only to put people with
    vulnerable systems (i.e. all of us) at a disadvantage.
    
    LWN Coverage of the O'Reilly Open Source Convention. [43][shared
    source panel] Better late than never... Dennis Tenney [44]reports on
    the 2001 O'Reilly Open Source Convention in San Diego, CA. The report
    covers the conference happenings, and includes interviews with Bruce
    Momjian, Bruce Perens, Guido van Rossum, and Jim Fulton.
    
    A note to our readers. A few of our readers with eagle-eyes will have
    noticed that Managing Editor Liz Coolbaugh's name has been missing
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    forward to having you back.
    
    Those who are interested should see [45]the message to our readers
    from Liz.
    
    Meanwhile, the rest of us are clearly going to have to scramble to
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    Inside this LWN.net weekly edition:
      * [46]Security: Warhol worms; fun with fetchmail.
      * [47]Kernel: Noise over the SB Live update; where to send patches?
      * [48]Distributions: Mission Critical layoffs, Mandrake releases 2
        new distributions.
      * [49]On the Desktop: theKompany rumbles, Loki stumbles, and Miguel
        humbels (Windows, that is).
      * [50]Development: PLEAC project, Vorbis RC2, GNOME-DB, Linux
        backups, Web services, exponential Python growth.
      * [51]Commerce: IDC survey shows Linux growth, Linux and TeraGrid,
        KDE 2.2, RedHat E-Commerce suite, TurboLinux on the S/390.
      * [52]History: GNOME's beginnings; standards battles; Red Hat goes
        public.
      * [53]Letters: Fair use and first sale; astroturfing; Mono.
        
    ...plus the usual array of reports, updates, and announcements.
    
    This Week's LWN was brought to you by:
      * [54]Jonathan Corbet, Executive Editor
      * [55]Elizabeth O. Coolbaugh, Managing Editor
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