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 From : Sergey Lentsov                       2:4615/71.10   06 Sep 2001  17:19:55
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 From:    Torsten Howard <torsten@inetw.net>
 To:      letters@lwn.net
 Subject: SourceForge
 Date:    Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:33:16 -0500
 
 Dear Editor:
 
 I read with some concern your subtopic, " VA Linux goes proprietary?"
 
 It is a critical failure to concenctrate too much power in the
 hands of a few.  Good systems are engineered without such a single
 point of failure.  Politics has usurped power from dictators.  Microsoft
 has bore the condemnation of the courts for abuse of its power.
 
 And thus the saying, "Power corrupts.  Absolute power corrupts
 absolutely."  Dr. Albert Einstein defined insanity as doing the same
 thing over and over, and expecting different results each time.
 
 At some point, I begin to wonder.  Exactly when do we learn from
 the mistakes past?  From the politics of GPL radicals, one would
 take a look and realize there is a huge concentration of power in the
 sourceforge website.  The same company owns two of the most visible
 advocacy sights, Freshmeat and Slashdot.org.
 
 In addition, sourceforge is abusing their power.  Let me explain.
 When I download non-sourceforge GPL software and wish
 to communicate to the author or mailing lists, I do so.
 
 Sourceforge has hidden all communication to its projects behind
 a "login."  It is the attempt to control communication, mailing lists,
 and access to emails which is an abuse of power.  It is this very
 communication which is the lifeblood of open-source contributive
 projects.   Now we see the insanity of repetition, and failure to
 change the way things are done.
 
 We have not learned that concentrating power is a poor choice.
 
 So what does this topic have to do with SourceForge.net adding
 proprietary extensions?  Only that they have the power to do so -
 the power to undermine the ideas upon which they stand without
 falling over - because nobody is pushing.
 
 And one final quote - "Power concedes nothing without demand."
 
 Thank you for your time.
 
 Sincerely,
 Torsten Howard
 
    
 From:    Michael Carniello <mlcarn1@home.com>
 To:      <letters@lwn.net>
 Subject: VA Linux
 Date:    Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:18:32 -0500
 
 To The Editor,
 
 Your recent piece on VA Linux (8/30/2001) was interesting, as most of your
 leading items are ... and it reflects a fact which you and most of this
 community truly believe, yet with a strange duality, fail to recognize. And
 that fact, reflected in a quote from your article, is this: "VA is ... just
 finding a way to more readily sell its free software..."
 
 Somebody may think of a clever of selling free stuff in the future, but it
 hasn't worked in the past. I'm not saying that free software isn't good or
 right, I'm saying that (right now, with current business models), it's
 impossible to make money off that which can be had for free.
 
 Mike Carniello
 mlcarn1@home.com
    
 From:    "jacob navia" <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
 To:      <letters@lwn.net>
 Subject: Selling free software
 Date:    Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:04:17 +0200
 
 Dear Sir:
 I would like to point you to this sentence in your magazine:
 
 "According to Eric, VA is not changing its focus as an open source company in
 any way, it's just finding a way to more readily sell its free software"
 
 Excuse me but if it's free of charge it can't be sold, and if it is sold, int
 can't be free of charge. I am sorry but I think logic should at least play a
 part in this discussion. VA Linux is beginning to fail financially, because
 there is no way around logic, no matter how many lengthy explanations you come
 up with.
 
 Yours sincerely
 
 - ---
 Jacob Navia Logiciels/informatique
 41 rue Maurice Ravel
 93430 Villetaneuse
 France
 
    
 From:    Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org>
 To:      letters@lwn.net
 Subject: LNX-BBC and LBT
 Date:    Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:57:57 -0700
 
 Thanks for the nice review of the LNX-BBC project!  We've also enjoyed
 the reaction from people at LinuxWorld who came by to pick up copies.
 
 Your article says that Linuxcare is no longer developing a bootable CD
 project.  Although we thought that might be the case when we sent our CD
 to press, it turns out that Linuxcare has done a new version of their
 project, now called LBT (Linuxcare Bootable Toolbox).  They have been
 giving these out at LinuxWorld; that means there are now two maintained
 projects derived from the Linuxcare Bootable Business Card, their
 project
 
 [16]http://lbt.linuxcare.com/
 
 and our project
 
 [17]http://www.lnx-bbc.org/
 
 --
 Seth David Schoen <schoen@loyalty.org> | Its really terrible when FBI arrested
 Temp.  [18]http://www.loyalty.org/~schoen/ | hacker, who visited USA with peace
 full
 down:  [19]http://www.loyalty.org/   (CAF) | mission -- to share his knowledge
 with
      [20]http://www.freesklyarov.org/      | american nation.  (Ilya V. Vasilye
 v)
 
    
 From:    "Toni SOUEID" <djt2000@inco.com.lb>
 To:      <letters@lwn.net>
 Subject: Fighting the DMCA and the Like.
 Date:    Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:04:13 +0200
 
 Dear reader,
 
 It is with sorrow and anger that I read the news about Dmitry Slyarov's
 case.  What a shame for all of us if researchers and developers will begin
 to be threatened just for writing a good paper or publishing a good piece
 of software.  Some of us think the DMCA is good (especially governments and
 big corporations) and some think is it bad.  Those who think it is good are
 enforcing it by every mean imaginable.
 
 So what can we do, we who think the DMCA is bad ?  The answer is pretty
 simple. Fighting fire with fire. Fighting law with law.  We all need to get
 involved in Free/Open Source software and/or in Free/Open Content
 documentation movements.  While donating money for such initiatives is fine
 and necessary it is not enough.  Contributions should be made by writing,
 using and reviewing such software and documentation.  People should be
 educated about the GPL, the FDL, the OPL and other similar licenses. They
 should also be encouraged to use such licenses.  Who will need to buy
 copyrighted material protected by a restrictive license when Free
 alternatives exist ?  If just everyone of use could write a little piece of
 software or a little piece of documentation in one of his areas of
 interest, and release it under Free/Open licenses we could build a huge
 alternative library of software and documentation that could benefit all of
 Humanity and at the same time protect it's rights.
 
 I've decided to release all of my own written tutorials under the OPL and
 all of my own written software under the GPL to help protest against what's
 happening out there.  On another hand I've decided to erase every piece of
 proprietary file formats from my website and replace them with standards
 compliant ones.
 
 Can you do the same ?
 
 Toni SOUEID,
 Beirut - LEBANON.
    
 From:    rjh@world.std.com
 To:      letters@lwn.net
 Subject: Financial customers are not conservative
 Date:    Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:30:55 -0400 (EDT)
 The financial marketplace is "conservative" in their financial
 attitudes, not their computer purchasing.  They have long been Unix
 strongholds.  Sun workstations, Thinking Machine supers, and other
 leading edge hardware has a long history of penetration of these
 financial markets.  The IBM sale to SIAC is signficant for Linux, not
 for the Unix family.  Several major stock market functions are Unix
 based.  More than 10% of the world stock settlements traffic has gone
 through SCO Unix based systems for several years.
 
 So while the SIAC sale is important and worth publicizing, do not read
 too much into it.
 
 R Horn
 
    
 From:    Vulture <t.sippel-dau@ic.ac.uk>
 To:      letters@lwn.net
 Subject: Terabyte disks and Linux kernels
 Date:    Mon, 03 Sep 2001 18:51:11 +0100
 
 Hello,
 
 some weeks ago I got my sweaty palms on one of the Barracuda-180 disks
 and fitted it into a system. However, I see a problem lurking on the
 horizon: SCSI commands have a 32 bit block address in the command, and
 can be formatted for blocks of size of any power of 2 bits, up to 2**35.
 However, Linux systems (and many others) have so far used "sector" sizes
 of 4096 bit (512 bytes), and aggregated these into "blocks", typically
 2, 8, or 16 sectors per block.
 
 File systems and paging work in these block sizes, but at the device
 driver level it will go down to the smaller sectors again.
 
 Now 4 billion blocks times 4000 bit gives 16 Tb or two Terabytes, and
 that is only 12 times as big is as currently available disks, and will
 probably be surpassed in 4 years or so. We could start making the
 sectors bigger, up to 32 kb (8 kilobytes) for 64 bit systems with an
 8 kilobyte page size, but how many disks will take kindly to a format-unit
 command specifying anything but 4096 bit blocks is anybodies guess.
 
 Disk manufacturers could also start to subdivide their disks into up to
 8 "logical units" for another 4 year's leeway or so. However, it might
 be a good idea to start thinking now about that particular limit and
 how to handle it in the kernel. A quick Google search yielded many articles
 on "Terabytes", but I found none that discussed it as a problematic limit.
 
 N.B. IDE drives have their next limit at 137 Gigabytes (according to
 [21]http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q114/8/41.ASP), which
 should become a problem in weeks rather than months.
 
                                 Thomas
 
 *   Why not use metric units and get it right first time, every time ?
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