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 From : Alex Mizrahi                         2:5020/400     08 Mar 2007  16:09:58
 To : Andrew V. Kyzmin
 Subject : Re: who is linux (c)
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 (message (Hello 'Andrew)
 (you :wrote :to '(Yuri Baranov) :on '(Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:57:02 +0300))
 (
 
  AVK> был один сплошной текст) пpосто создал набоp необходимых системных
  AVK> альтеpнативных, существовавшему тогда пpопpиетаpному unix'у, утилит.
 
 о как, а пацаны то не знаю..
 
 http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
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 Many users are not fully aware of the distinction between the kernel, which 
 is Linux, and the whole system, which they also call "Linux". The ambiguous 
 use of the name doesn't promote understanding. These users often think that 
 Linus Torvalds developed the whole operating system in 1991, with a bit of 
 help.
 
 Programmers generally know that Linux is a kernel. But since they have 
 generally heard the whole system called "Linux" as well, they often envisage 
 a history that would justify naming the whole system after the kernel. For 
 example, many believe that once Linus Torvalds finished writing Linux, the 
 kernel, its users looked around for other free software to go with it, and 
 found that (for no particular reason) most everything necessary to make a 
 Unix-like system was already available.
 What they found was no accident--it was the not-quite-complete GNU system. 
 The available free software added up to a complete system because the GNU 
 Project had been working since 1984 to make one. In the The GNU Manifesto we 
 set forth the goal of developing a free Unix-like system, called GNU. The 
 Initial Announcement of the GNU Project also outlines some of the original 
 plans for the GNU system. By the time Linux was written, GNU was almost 
 finished.
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 на самом деле роль Линуса в создании бесплатной unix-like системы велика 
 только из-за тупизма GNU.
 
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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU
 
 The kernel situation
 In 1992, the operating system was more or less finished except for the 
 kernel. The GNU project had a microkernel, and to add the necessary 
 Unix-kernel-like functionality to their microkernel, they were developing a 
 project called Hurd, but Hurd was still very incomplete.
 That year, Linus Torvalds released his Unix-like kernel, "Linux", as free 
 software. The combination of the Linux kernel and the GNU system made for a 
 whole, Unix-like, free software operating system. Linux-based variants of 
 the GNU system became the most common way in which people use GNU.
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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurd
 Development on the Hurd began in 1990, after an abandoned kernel attempt 
 started from the finished research Trix operating system developed by 
 Professor Steve Ward and his group at MIT's Laboratory for Computer Science 
 (LCS). According to Michael (now Thomas) Bushnell, the initial Hurd 
 architect, their early plan was to adapt the BSD 4.4-Lite kernel and, in 
 hindsight, "It is now perfectly obvious to me that this would have succeeded 
 splendidly and the world would be a very different place today".[1] However, 
 due to a lack of cooperation from the Berkeley programmers, Richard Stallman 
 decided instead to use the Mach microkernel, which subsequently proved 
 unexpectedly difficult, and the Hurd's development proceeded slowly.
 Because of this slow pace, the GNU userland components came to be used with 
 the Linux kernel and are now commonly associated with "Linux" systems (see 
 also GNU/Linux naming controversy).
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 таким образом, Linux стал популярным только из-за того, что товарищи из GNU 
 надеялись по-быстрому сделать ядро на основе микроядра Mach, и им это не 
 удалось.
 если бы они адаптировали ядро BSD, то, как пишет Thomas Bushnell, "мир бы 
 был совсем другим" -- про Линукс бы наверно никто и не знал сейчас..
 
 )
 (With-best-regards '(Alex Mizrahi) :aka 'killer_storm)
 "не надо обижать уузку") 
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 Re: who is linux (c)   Alex Korchmar   07 Mar 2007 12:32:38 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Valery Shishkov   07 Mar 2007 14:19:31 
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 Re: who is linux (c)   Boris Shklyaev   08 Mar 2007 13:01:36 
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 Re: who is linux (c)   Boris Shklyaev   09 Mar 2007 23:59:42 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Alex Korchmar   09 Mar 2007 23:02:14 
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 Re: who is linux (c)   Alex Korchmar   12 Mar 2007 00:31:39 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Boris Shklyaev   12 Mar 2007 19:57:20 
 who is linux (c)   Andrew V. Kyzmin   07 Mar 2007 17:57:02 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Alex Mizrahi   08 Mar 2007 16:09:58 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Boris Shklyaev   09 Mar 2007 12:21:00 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Alex Mizrahi   11 Mar 2007 01:36:59 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Boris Shklyaev   12 Mar 2007 13:00:12 
 Re: who is linux (c)   Kirill Frolov   11 Mar 2007 17:10:53 
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